2024-04-04 TSC Minutes

Attendees & Representation

TSC Members may indicate their attendance by marking an X in the column to the right.

Community members may use @name tag to mark their attendance below the table. 

LF Staff: 

Community: Tanja de Groot Rafal Artych Cevdet Emre Yilmaz, Uwe Rauschenbach Ming Hui Foo Musa Gacemer Ramit ChawlaRicardo Serrano Gutierrez Yacine Kheddache Pierre Close 

Agenda

• Review and approval of previous meeting minutes
• Action Items Review
• General Topics
  • CAMARA Project Updates & Governance issues
  • Change Working Groups into Sub Projects (https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/issues/84)
  • Release Management
  • Identity & Consent Management
  • Commonalities
  • API Backlog
• Specific Topics
  • No life sign projects - how to handle these?
  • (if time left) Add structure to sub project and working group information
• Any Other Topics

Minutes

Review and approval of previous meeting minutes

• 2024-03-21 TSC Minutes
  
  • No comment - Minutes agreed.

Action Item Review

CAMARA Project Updates ( Casey Cain  & all)

• Project meetings
  • Due to Daylight Savings Time, meetings will likely need to be updated.  Ping Casey Cain & Evan Harrison on Slack with your move requests and they will be processed this Friday.
  • If you have not yet moved to Zoom, please let Casey Cain & Evan Harrison when you are ready so we can move.
    • All project meetings that were listed in project repositories have been created.  We are just waiting on projects to reach out to Evan Harrison & Casey Cain  to migrate to the new zoom meetings.
  • Make sure that you are encouraging everyone to have a LF ID.  We are noticing that a lot of people are joining the project calls that do not have an LF ID.  This will ensure that they can find meeting invites and recordings on LFID Profile at https://openprofile.dev 
• Status of EasyCLA introduction (Casey Cain )
  • From previous minutes: Activation for CLA is delayed for right now until GSMA is resolved, Casey took action to send mail to Mark Cornall
    • GSMA Follow-up taking place on 12 Apr 2024 
• Open Office Hours  (Casey Cain to provide next slots)
  • Open Office Hours was delayed due to Casey & Evan both being ill.  New invites for the Open Office Hours has been sent

Change Working Groups into Sub Projects (https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/issues/84)(Herbert Damker )

• Proposal (as in https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/issues/84):

  • Create separate repositories for all Working Groups (Commonalities and Release Management already available, API Backlog and Marketing todo)

  • The new repositories follow the same procedures as the repositories for Sub Projects. That means it will have maintainers and code owners, but no WG_participant.md files

  • To distinguish repos for Working Groups from repos for API Sub Projects we use a new badge "Working Group"
  • Existing content will be added into the new repositories, issues will be transferred 

  • The existing "Working Groups" repository is set to read only after the content is transferred and then archived after 1 month

• How to define the initial set of Maintainers and Codeowners for the API Backlog repository?
  • API Backlog:
    • Proposal: candidates for Maintainer in API Backlog group are all current participants who have attended >=4 of the last 6 meetings (9 candidates, representing ATT, CableLabs, Charter Communication, Ericsson, GSMA, Nokia, Telefonica (2), Vodafone). Further 6 candidates if >=3 of last 6 meetings or >=5 of of last 9 meetings (Deutsche Telekom, Huawei, Orange, Schabodi, Telefonica, Vodafone). The candidates would need to commit to the Maintainer role to get Maintainer.
    • Codeowner will be defined by the Maintainer group
  • Maintainers and code owners of Marketing Working Group will be defined by the existing working group respective the Outreach Committee members nominated by Board members
• Approved by the TSC
  • Herbert Damker will get in touch with Ricardo Serrano Gutierrez to execute accordingly for backlog project. 
    • Ricardo will reach out to the Maintainer candidates and ask for their commitment to the role
  • Herbert Damker will create a PR with the necessary changes to ProjectCharter.md and ProjectStructureAndRoles.md
  • For further resulting action items see https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/issues/84#issuecomment-2036723582

Release Management (Samuel Adeyemo Tanja de Groot )

• Review of CAMARA release process Meta-release Milestones (https://wiki.camaraproject.org/x/16N3)
  
  • Meta-release Fall24 (old) timeline
  • Next step: create API version assets and acceptance criteria for Commonalities and ICM release-candidates
  • Action Point: clarify current comments on the process
  • Action Point: align dates M1 & M2 with ICM and Commonalities
  • Action Point: disseminate the release process information into sub projects; starting with AHC on Thursday April 11th
• Draft Proposal for Release management & versioning API Release Process (https://wiki.camaraproject.org/x/AgAVAQ)
  • Feedback requested
  • Will lead to update of Camara_Versioning_Guidelines.md
  • May lead to updates / moving of release checklist to RM
  • May lead to updates of the testing guidelines
  • Action Point: Check linting rules, if the proposed version numbering and extensions are allowed Herbert Damker 
  • To be discussed and decided: will only sub project releases with >=1.x.y be part of the meta-release or could also "development" releases 0.x.y be allowed as part of the meta-release? => Open issues below
• Open issues
  • Review: Multiple APIs in one Sub-project(https://wiki.camaraproject.org/x/PQEVAQ)
  • Next steps: in all outstanding issues related to RM, request teams to check if proposal meets the needs.
  • Action Item: create or reuse GitHub issues for the open issue(s)

Identity & Consent Management ( Axel Nennker )

• Not much feedback from TSC members on our request to comment on "purpose" and whether multiple purposes are a business requirement
  • Request for action to all: Please add your company's position
• Working on the last remaining open topics before merging our Interoperability and security document. Thanks to TEF for summing up the open points.
  • Most difficult remaining point is how to represent "purpose" (see previous point). If there is no consensus within the next meeting, the only option might be to have no statement about it in the first version of the profile (= deleting the current proposal of adding an explicit parameter from the PR). 
• Steady participation, we are making progress

Commonalities (Rafal Artych )

• Discussions on event subscription evolution are going on (issues 1-4 from the consolidation list)
  • Proposal (Ludovic Robert ): have explicit workshop (mid of April) to resolve the open points on event subscriptions
  • Proposal (Jose Luis Urien ): Another meeting for the open points regarding test definitions (also in April)
• Error response format
  • No feedback on Adopting RFC 9457 for Error Handling
  • Decision: Adopting RFC 9457 for Error Handling will be closed with "not to be implemented"
  • Smaller improvements:
    • Which error send back when issue with Device Identifier provided by the API Consumer
    • Proposal to add error response for not supported method for phone number
    • Add reference documentation link to error responses
• Release (0.4.0) plan
  • Meeting on 15.04.2024 fixing the scope → M0 
    • Rafal Artych mentioned that having stable commonalities guidelines for M1 is very challenging
  • The latest moment to finish the release candidate of Commonalities is 10.06.2024 → M2
    • M2 should include update of linting rules introduced with M1 release of Commonalities (as far as able to be checked by linting rules) 

API Backlog (Ricardo Serrano Gutierrez )

• There was not enough time left for the API Backlog items, especially the proposals from https://lists.camaraproject.org/g/tsc/message/149, they are postponed to next TSC meeting
• CPE Management:
  • Already approved, will go in a separate repository beside HomeDevicesQoD, but planned to be managed by one group
  • Final name under discussion, see comment in https://github.com/camaraproject/WorkingGroups/issues/378
  • Sub Project will be create after name is decided
• Ricardo Serrano Gutierrez mentioned that there potentially will come a lot of new proposals with GSMA Product team "Drop 4" and we need to discuss how to handle that.
• Herbert Damker reminded of the name of the working group "API Backlog", which means that proposals can also stay there until the project has enough bandwidth to manage the work on the proposals. Criteria need to be defined about which proposals will be put into "work in progress" (= will be developed and afterwards managed in a sub project).

No life sign projects - how to handle these? (Herbert Damker Ludovic Robert )

• Following points were only shortly mentioned my Ludovic Robert , but not discussed (=> backlog item) 
  • We have currently two project without (visible) work within the repositories
    • Device Swap (repository created but no activity over the last 6 months)
    • IMEI Fraud (Attached to device identifier repository but no activity there on this API)
  • Are these APIs still relevant?
    • If, yes, how to find volunteers who will work on them?
    • If no volunteers: Postpone these APIs to a later time?

Add structure to project and working group information (Casey Cain )

• Postponed to a later TSC due to lack of time.

Any Other Topic

• none

Next Meeting

• Next TSC Meeting will be on April 18th, 16:00 CEST / 14:00 UTC / 07:00 PST
• Specific agenda topics backlog:
  
  • Update from TMForum collaboration and how members are working in Catalysts and Operate APIs (Olta Vangjeli )
    • Catalyst and Operate APIs update
    • Can we have more usecases proposed how TMForum APIs and Camara communicate in e2e journeys?
  • No life sign projects - how to handle these? (Ludovic Robert )
  • Add structure to project and working group information (Casey Cain )

Action items