DRAFT MINUTES

Attendees


OrganizationName
Orange
Charter CommunicationsChristopher Aubut 
Telefonica
VodafoneEric Murray 
EricssonJan Friman 
AT&TPierre Close 
DTNoel Wirzus
T-Mobile US
KDD
Slagen
Nokia
China Telecom
ZTE
KPN
GSMAHelene Vigue
CentilionNicholas Venezia 


Agenda Proposal

  • Antitrust Policy
  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call
  • Recent Updates & Recap
  • Review of Action Points
  • Discussion
    • OGW Drop #3 APIs:  #19 (Device Quality Indicator)

    • OGW Drop #4 APIs:  #35 (5G New Calling), #34 (Shutdown Service Status), #41 (Telco Scoring)

    • Other APIs:  #17 (Consent and Measurement), #18 (Receive SMS),  #23 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #24 (Steering of Roaming Information), #29 (Call Status), #28 (Device Data Volume)

    • Scope Enhancement: #45 (KYC-Match API - Scoring Logic), #48 (RegionUserCount)

    • Governance: #4 (Structures and roles, RACI, Maintainers initiative)

  • Clossing Issues
    • #20 (Best Interconnection), #22 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #2 (Tenure), #27 (Verified Caller)


  • Action Points
  • AOB
  • Q&A

Antitrust Policy

The project's Antitrust Policy, which you can find linked from the LF and project websites. The policy is important where multiple companies, including potential industry competitors, are participating in meetings. Please review and if you have any questions, please contact your company legal counsel. Members of the LF may contact Andrew Updegrove at the firm Gesmer Updegrove LLP, which provides legal counsel to the LinusFoundation.


 

New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings

A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:

  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.
    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.
    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.
  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)
    • 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET)
    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET)
  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github

  • CAMARA community agreed that meeting minutes would only be recorded in the wiki

Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here
    • DECISION: Approved

Recent Updates & Recap

TSC meeting 18th May:

  • The subgroups/repos have been created:
    • Tenure: Maintainers and Codeowners need to be provided, scope is pending
    • VerifiedCaller: Maintainers and Codeowners have already been provided, scope is pending
  • In the sake of the health of the CAMARA group, so that the projects do not lose their activity as soon as they are born, it will be proposed that in order to approve new API proposals, these must be supported by at least 3 companies (MNO or suppliers indistinctly). An issue will be opened within governance encompassing this. TSC will take a decission next meeting
    • This issue seems to be under discussion, some companies have commited to make a more relaxed alternative such a sandbox

Other topics

  • New API Backlog GitHub Repo have been created here. Issues have been migrated, PRs will be migrated once they are approved. New PRs and Issues need to be opened in the new repo.

Codeowners:

Anyone else commits to be codeowner?

Next steps:

    • Keep PRs in the old repo and the new PRs will directly need to be opened in the new repo
    • Issues will be moved to the new repo

Backlog table

  • Table updated in PR#51 (merged)

Review of Action Points

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Due date

Status

20230208-02

WG delegates

Delegates from interested parties to prepare a list of questions for this API, for Nick to answer them.

351

2024/02/21

Open

20230208-01

Centilion

To draft a simple figure illustrating the API logic with a high-level workflow, and attach it to the PR.  

351

2024/02/21

Open


20240314-01

Governance

Ricardo to share the RACI in the issue 367 comments, after making CAMARA specific document and validation by TSC

367

2024/03/14

Open

20240411-01Deustche TelekomNoel updating proposal with new fields. Start in parallel while device status API is split375

 

Open
20240411-03Telefonica&DTModify the README for the QualityOnDemand subproject and include the new Scope enhancement402 404

 

Closed
20240425-02CentillinonNext API Backlog meeting, Nick to bring new use cases and endpoints351

 

Open

Discussion

Current Issues 

17 CentillionNew Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement
The API template is available in PR#386.

Finishing documentation, Waiting for Real Time Bidding (RTB) standard to come up with the last versions so to provide further details

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

4

Governance

Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)
The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

Ricardo is currently working on modeling a new table

Strugling with the new Table model

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

18TotogiNew Proposal: Receive SMS
The API template is available in PR#391

This issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treated

to be treated in following session

19

Deutsche Telekom

New Proposal: Device Quality Indicator
The API template is available in PR#380
Input from OGW Drop 3

Noel proposed Device Status subgroup to integrate their APIs within Noel's. Noel to make the proposal to the API Backlog and provide update

Two proposals Isue 375 and 412 would be integrating within the Device Status subproject The subgroup people is okay with this

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

to be treated in following session

DECISION: Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) →  Device Quality Indicator

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing
The API template is available in PR#393

First YAML avaliable here

The issue was not treated in this conference call


The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treated

ACTION: Ricardo to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management
The API template is available in PR#398


Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

The issue was not treated in this conference call


The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treated

ACTION: Ricardo to reach up Netfocusin Technologies to see if the could connect next meetings

28

Deutsche Telekom

New API Proposal: Device Data Volume

New template in PR#39

DECISION: Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) → Device Data Volume

29

Rogers

New API Proposal: Call Status

DECISION Issue is closed due to lack of activity → redacted

34

China Unicom

New API Proposal: Shutdown ServiceStatus

The API tempate is available in PR#32

Not treated

(relations with device status to be considered)


To be treated in next session

ACTION: Open an issue within DeviceStatus subproject to check overlaps.

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Not treated


To be treated in next session

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available #42

Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

Scoring is a simple algortithm/model but need to be aligned within all the operators 

Splicit consent is needed. 

How the model is going to be discussed? 

  1. Model introduced by a financial authority
  2. Federated model shared by all  telcos

Unified model for all the countries may lead into dificulties in order to fit the API within CAMARA Scope

ACTION: Toshi validate if This APImay fit within KYC API familiy

ACTION: Jorge Reach out to Nick by email

45

Telefonica

Scope Enhancement: KYC-Match API -Scoring logic 

The API template is available #46

This is just an enhancement of the current API. 

Looks fine as an Enhancement. SHould work without scoring due to limitation in some countries (not all responses include scoring, some cases does not make sense). 

Optional parameter in the output

ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API subproject

ACTION: Scope Enhancement Template should be created

48

China Unicom

Scope Enhancement: Name change RegionUserCount

The API template is available #47


Closing Issues

20

Deutsche Telekom

Best Interconnection
The API template is available in PR#381
Input from OGW Drop 3

Seek for support

ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud

22

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions
The API template is available in PR#384

It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

intitial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

The issue was not treated in this conference call

Closed Issues

Issue

Owner

API

Repository

27 

China Telecom

 Verified Caller 


VerifiedCaller

2

Vodafone

 Tenure

Tenure
37VodafoneMove Simple Edge Discovery to own repository

New Issues





Action Points

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Due date

Status

20240523-01API Backlog GovernanceRicardo to reach up TelecomXchange, Totogi and Netfocusin Technologies to see if the could connect next meetings23 24 1823/05/2024Open
20240523-02API Backlog Governance/China UnicomOpen an issue within DeviceStatus subproject to check overlaps regarding Shutdown Service Status3423/05/2024Open
20240523-03KDDIToshi validate with KYC participants if Telco Scoring API may fit within KYC familiy4123/05/2024Open
20240523-04TelefonicaJorge Reach out to Nick by email4123/05/2024Open
20240523-05KDDIToshi validate with KYC participants if TScoring Logic Scope Enhancement may fit within KYC familiy4523/05/2024Open
20240523-06API Backlog GovernanceCreate a API Scope Enhancement TemplateTBO23/05/2024Open
20240523-07DTBest interconnection: Review wether there is overlap within EdgeCloud subproject2023/05/2024Open

Decision Points

DP #

DP description

Related issue

20240523-01

Move to TSC if there is enough support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories →  Device Quality Indicator

19

20240523-02

Move to TSC if there is enough support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories →  Device Data Volume

28

20240523-03

Call Status API proposal overlaped with existing CAMARA projects and owner REDACTED Issue. Issue is closed

29

AoB

Next Backlog conf. call: 13th June, 10-11 UTC+2.

Next TSC conf. call: 06th June, 10-11,30 UTC+2

Q&A

How does CAMARA API pipeline work?

The pipeline consists of FOUR stages:
A. Submission of the API proposal.
B. Evaluation of the API proposal.
C. API proposal voting & decision.
D. Sub-Project setup.

The following clauses provides details on individual stages.

Stage A: Submission of the API proposal

Participants: API owner.
Description: The proccess is detailed here. To proceed with the submission, the API owner shall follow these steps:

  1. Fill in the template available here and save it with the following name: "APIproposal_<APIname>_<owner>. md" locally.
  2. Create a new issue in the API Backlog Working Group repository, labeled with "API Backlog".
  3. Upload the filled-in template to GitHub repository folder for API proposals via Pull Request. This Pull Request shall be associated to the issue created in the previous step.


Stage B: Evaluation of the API proposal

Participants: API owner, API backlog WG.
Description: The proccess is detailed here. Upon submission, the API owner will present the proposal in the next API backlog WG meeting, to socialize it with the rest of partners. In paralell..

  1. The WG chair checks that the template is duly filled in. Otherwise, the API owner is requested to provide missing information.
  2. After this sanity check, each WG participant declares their support. If a company wants to become supporter of an API, then a delegate of this company needs to add the company's name in the 'supporters' column in the API backlog table. The more support an API proposal gets, the better (it may get more traction).
  3. When the API owner considers the API proposal is in good shape to go for approval, it informs the WG chair accordingly.
  4. Upon receiving this information, the WG chair merges the Pull Request into the main branch, and sends the API proposal to the Technical Steering Committee (TSC) of CAMARA. This action shall be completed at least one week prior to the TSC meeting where the API proposal will be voted upon.

The whole procedure (steps 1-4) should be done within 2 regular meetings of the API Backlog WG. Nonetheless, it is up to the API owner to decide if it wants to shorten or extend this time period.


Stage C: API proposal & voting decision

Participants: TSC.
Description: The proccess is detailed here. Upon receiving the API proposal and notification from the API backlog WG chair, the TSC studies the proosal and votes it at the next TSC meeting.

NOTE 1: Possible decisions outcomes:

  • Not Accepted: The API proposal is rejected, and thus will not be included in any API Sub-Project. The TSC will need to inform the API backlog WG of this decision, and clarify next steps: either (1) remove this API proposal from backlog, with objecting companies providing justifications why; or (2) ask for changes (e.g., clarifications, corrections, gaps to be addressed) required in order for the API to be re-submitted by the API supporters.
  • Accepted: In this case, the TSC shall specify whether the API proposal is to be hosted by a new or existing Sub Project.

NOTE 2: The TSC may also propose changes to an API proposal and take the decision considering these changes. The TSC documents the decision in the CAMARA API overview list (fills in columns TSC date and TSC decision / Sub Project; in case of a No-Go "Rejected" is documented there).


Stage D: Sub-Project setup

Participants: API backlog WG, TSC, CAMARA admin team
Description: If an API proposal is accepted and there is a neeed to open a new Sub-Project, the following steps are needed:

  1. Supporting companies propose their initial maintainers to be added for the Sub-Project. The API backlog WG chair centralizes this information, and sends it to the TSC.
  2. The TSC will use this input to oficially nominate the initial maintainers by next TSC meeting.
  3. The CAMARA admin team creates the Sub-Project repository.

NOTE: After the initial maintainers are nominated, the criteria for further maintainers would be three months of active contribution to the sub project. Code owners are to be decided by the maintainers within the subproject.

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